the hippa laws, the mental laws, the medical laws, the privacy laws, the educational secrecy laws are so strong, they are never going to be on a list. they are never going to be recognizable and will never be in the system. therefore, the only people that will be are people like you and me. it is a huge waste of money. it's going to be selectively enforced. it is going to be abused. and the worst thing, you're creating a registry of all the law-abiding people in the country, that own firearms. i know the politicians say hey we will never use that list to confiscate. that's a pretty tall order to believe a promise from people in this town right now. i watched the same thing in the u.k., and they broke that promise. stuart: i'm very familiar with that. i find this a fascinating discussion. i'm very glad that you're with us to give both sides of the argument, because i don't think your side has been clearly heard, and you just gave it to us. wayne la pierre, we thank you very much indeed, sir. >> thanks for having me. stuart: forbes releases its annual billionaire list. warren buffett, b